To understand why I am so quick to read conservatism into punk rock, take a quick look at this story of someone of "falling in love with Punk Rock," which came to me third-hand:
I fell in love with Punk Rock when I was 13 years old and snuck into a club because my classmate was sleeping with the bouncer. It was a subculture defined by rigid rules which allowed for great expression, an overwhelming ethic, high expectations, and a bareknuckled willingness for confrontation. I'll never forget that first show—seeing a guy go down hard after taking an elbow in the face, then watching him get picked up by some guy he'd never met before who said to him: "You okay? You able to walk? Good, then get back in the pit and punch somebody.""Rigid rules which allowed for great expression"; "an overwhelming ethic"; "high expectations": about as trad as one can be short of hauling out the Pope.
I like that punk is torn between strict enforcement of its own rules on one hand and knee-jerk opposition to rules at all on the other; it's a helpful tension, and Todd seems to agree. However, I don't think his understanding of the punk coin's traditional side is quite right:
. . . the means of squaring the circle here (or scrawling a sloppy “A” in the circle, if you will), for political purposes, is to recognize that we should appreciate both the comfort people find from immersion in densely rule-bound communities and their freedom to leave such communities, the latter facilitated by not turning such communities’ particular rules into actual laws enforced by cops.Todd can make me acknowledge the fact that some people "find comfort" in tradition, but he can't make me like it. If your traditionalism makes you comfortable, you're doing it wrong.
I'm sure it's psychologically soothing to behold a vast sea of bobbing mohawks and know that you belong, but the traditions of punk get a lot less comforting when you go beyond the dress code. The kind of person drawn to punk is probably pretty tough, but the punk ethos demands they be tougher. They probably have the beginnings of self-discipline, but the tradition demands that they have more. They're probably independent-minded, but the tradition demands that they sacrifice their last remaining attachments to conventional respectability. Punk, like all traditions, comforts the afflicted and afflicts the comfortable.
But what do I know? I'm listening to Steely Dan right now. (James is wrong, by the way. Jose Cuervo, you are a friend of mine.)
IMPORTANT BONUS: Todd's instinct is to weaken the social pressures that keep people within their traditions and communities, but, given his conservative disposition, he's happiest when people make the choice to "stay on the farm." My instinct is just the opposite: I think that traditional communities should exert considerable pressure on their inhabitants, but I'm secretly delighted when the occasional exception lights out for the big city (i.e. heads to Brooklyn to become a writer). Does this shed any light on our respective readings of punk rock, and which of us is right? For the record, Florence King agrees with me. A Southern family may worry that Mary Lou will "go hog wild" once she heads north, but eventually:
. . . if she stays in New York long enough, the family will decide that she is an eccentric, which is the nicest thing any Southern family can say about one of their own.

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I can't say who's right, because I really only ever flitted on the edges of the actual punk subculture.
I will say that perhaps you and Todd have a meeting place re: punk as a community. You characterize Todd's beliefs as being "community rules and ideals are great provided they aren't being enforced by the cops." But given what you've posted in the past on shame, tradition and community, isn't it best to characterize your stance as "if the cops need to enforce the community's rules and ideals, it's already too late"?
I hope that makes sense. Todd thinks there is no central authority that keeps you there, you (ideally) would see that authority decentralized to be upheld by the community as a whole.
No No No. Punk Rock is not conservative. True conservative movements (and not just those calling themselves such, like those of radicals like your boyfriend) have a core of stability and continuity. This stability and continuity is not characterized by the characteristics of the movement, but by the the stability and continuity of the characteristics.
(Jeez, I sound all Po-Mo, and I'm very ashamed of my scrupulous parsing of terms, but the point is still valid, even if I sound like grad student)
Punk Rock was dead before you were even born.
The crux of it is that Punks, like the Hippies before them, and other such pop culture phenomena, were fundamentally youth movements, and fundamentally incapable of long-term stability, since the youth (drum roll...)...
...eventually grow old.
(The Who's _Quadrophrenia_ captured this sentiment nicely)
Any truly conservative movement must be relevant to a person in all stages of their life. It must span generations.
Now, in one sense, youthful rebellion has become a sort of tradition in our Modern culture, and in that sense it would be conservative if it spanned across generational cohorts, in predictably similar manifestations, but now I think we're reaching. The impetuosity of youth is not really surprisingly remarkable, neither is the orthodoxy of old age.
-ME
Todd, if you do not bang this woman over the head with an intellectual rock and drag her back to your cave, you sir, are an idiot.
Wait a sec, Anonymous: Does that mean "This one's a keeper" or "This one has made such a dumb argument that the only cure is to hit her in the head with something heavy?"
(I hope this doesn't double-post)
I realize I'm coming a bit late to the conversation, but I was wondering where exactly we're drawing the boundaries of what counts as "punk" for the purposes of this conversation.
I ask because it seems that there are at least some subgenres of punk music which don't put much - if any - emphasis on the individualism. I am thinking in particular of "Celtic punk" and "street punk/Oi!" (or whatever the kids are calling them these days...)
Nice to see you use "on one hand." I don't know which way the association runs, but the added "the" in the phrase always colors the speaker a little middlebrow bureaucrat to my mind.
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